Our thank you to Jamie’s AMAZING supporters

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November 11, 2020

Jamie & I want to thank everyone who has supported Plague of Strength. The question is if you could buy something exclusive to supporters what would you rather?

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26 responses to “Our thank you to Jamie’s AMAZING supporters”

Nick

November 12, 2020

Crew neck sweatshirt . Something 80’s metal style
1. Jamie Chaos
  
  November 12, 2020
  
  I genuinely hadn’t thought of a crewneck- everyone I know rocks zipups. I’m going to be working with Anthony Gutter from Gutter Christ Productions for everything, I think- the new stickers are coming from him, and I love his merch. Tara loves the drops ship shit, but I would rather just have my friends make rad shit rather than some Chinese robot, haha.
  
  80s throwback is definitely, definitely going on the list. Good call on the recommendation, and seriously, thanks for supporting the site!
Jon

November 12, 2020

The old posts are not open, even the old blogspot redirects here. If you had done it since the beginning, it would be ok, but doing it now feels cheap. Not talking about the new content, but the old. Feels like totally unlike the old Jamie.
Nonetheless, I have bought many books and given as donation, will probably do it in the future.
Well, you deserve the money.

Btw, I enjoyed the article describing your cosmovision, but do not agree with it, it is simplistic.
On the other hand, norse mythology (runes, dwarves, crows, Ragnarok, etc…) and paganism itself is semitized europeism, a modern invention, a hollywood movie.
Unlike greco roman culture/religion/civilizations, which feel natural, have ruled the world and have given us the symbolic language of our soul.
1. Jamie Chaos
  
  November 13, 2020
  
  This had nothing to do with being a money grab- I am tired of writing against most of my audience and attempting to forcibly educate them. This shit has made me hate lifters altogether. I never associate with lifters in my personal life because they are almost to a person garbage, and they resist learning more than even the average idiot. This is the most unpleasant, thankless shit a human being could do, and even when I’m doing it at a literal detriment to myself you motherfuckers aren’t satisfied.
  
  And I’d intended to leave the old ones open but I am broke as fuck and am using freeware for this, and that freeware is an all or nothing deal unless I were to go through each and every one of those posts manually and set half of my over 600 articles to Patreon and make the others free. Which would require opening each of those lengthy articles to edit, which is not instantaneous, then clicking the dropdown and updating, then going back to the menu for each one. At maybe 2 minutes per, you just signed me up for an extra 10 hours of totally unpaid and incredibly fucking tedious work, because I’m not putting enough porn into the articles for your liking? On addition to the 50 hours or so of unpaid work I do for a bunch of motherfuckers that barely appreciate it. I did drop cash for an add on to allow sneak peeks of each article (which I set at a length longer than most lifting articles in the first place), so you can be happier with my level of financial and effort sacrifice in this wild-eyed money grab (it never occurred to you that this site maybe makes no fucking money and that’s why it looks like shit?). And once we either figure out what to do with the site (as in leave it or make it a membership site) and have the money to do so we’ll make some of the article public again, because I’ve never liked the idea of putting information behind a paywall- I would just like anyone at all to pay me for my work, and that doesn’t regularly happen. I tried to self-finance with a supplement company I formed and I cannot afford to sue so that I can have however much money they owe me. I can’t even find out how much because guess what? I have zero dollars.
  
  But hooray for you. I’m glad you enjoyed that article- I mostly posted it because I was so burned out on research. Maybe you’re right though, and I should just die in a gutter handing you guys my very last pennies. Although you’ll still call me fucking cheap when I die. A fitting article for you to remember me by I guess. You can screen scrape wordpress just like you could blogger for them if you want future content from me with that, with whatever time remains on your month of Patreon. Thanks for those donations, and good luck finding someone else to do ten years of completely insanely intense research and writing about a topic you enjoy going forward. And hopefully you can use your “old stuff” article when you’re trying to grab some free lunch at McDonald’s. The burgers have been on the menu since 55- that should should be FREE. Whatever you do, enjoy whatever site you use to replace this one- it’ll suck, but you can always pretend it doesn’t.
Viva Steve!

November 13, 2020

Dunno if you used to read the old POWER and BULK webpage but I thought it a good one. Lifters would talk to each other, bullshit, whatever. Trouble is you set yourself up as the authority and your word is final sort of deal and if you allow people a say they are going to contradict you. You think that adding swear words or porn or whatever adds any weight to your ideas. It’s just entertainment, a frivolous way to spend a bit of spare time , I highly doubt anyone really sees this site as a fountain of knowledge or enlightenment or even a good place to learn about lifting, Its just entertaining. Sure you may get a group of people willing to throw a small amount of money for the privilege, but I cannot see it going far. The money is is in the snake oil, the supplements, the protein powder. The rest is a means to sell it.
Jon

November 14, 2020

An emotionally outcry:
– never said you should not be paid for your past efforts
– never said you should not monetize your present and future efforts, in fact the oppposite
– I have paid for more than most (probably), even buying twice the same ebook for an acquaintance, which (I think) he did not even open, don’t care
– did not say that I would go, in fact said I will buy/donate
– you could have left untouched the old blog, no need to change anything here, do not care about the aesthetics
– truth to tell I do not need the content, I can take care of my own training and the rest of my life, thanks a lot, it is just that I like to read this content every now and then and support it
– I have given my opinion: if you don’t like it, that is ok, I don’t care
1. Jamie Chaos
  
  November 15, 2020
  
  I am too irritated with this entire situation to even rationally comment beyond thanks for the cash. I’ve no interest in really airing my person thoughts beyond what I already have, though none of them are directed at you- you were simply in the way of my ire and stoked the flames with claims of me not being my old self, which is something of a pet peeve due to the fact I’ve better by any subjective metric at literally everything I do than I was 10 years ago, including being more generous. To your point directly, though, they had a ten year free trial and did literally nothing but bitch and talk shit. Josh Bryant and those thieving pussies at TNation. all make money off my shit, and I don’t. My business partner makes money off my shit, and I don’t. Thus, beyond the satisfaction of writing I have literally zero reason to extend even a modicum of warmth to the lifting community.
  
  – deleting the redirect would fuck up the google metrics for the articles because they were duplicated. That doesn’t matter at the moment, but in the event that I can get a publisher it likely would. I’d imagine that makes sense beyond “fuck those people- there is no reason I should extend a twelve year free trial any further.”
  
  I made this site Patreon-only as a thank you to you guys for actually appreciating my work. My wild-eyed rage in my response was because you seemed to have missed that. However, I will add that if it’s the consensus of you guys to give my stuff away, then we’ll go ahead and do it- I have no skin in the game beyond more of my own time utterly wasted. You must realize that your response of “THE OLD JAMIE WOULD HAVE JUST GIVEN EVERYTHING AWAY” was pretty poorly timed given the fact that at this point I have so little appreciation for my audience that I am going to be competing again in 2021 to mock motherfuckers and start fights, however.
  
  Let’s hope you’re not a doctor, because your bedside manner is dogshit. And thanks for buying a copy of the book for a friend, by the way- had I been capable I would have suggested a gift membership or something. As it stood it was all I could do not to throw my fucking laptop through the window haha.
Hurtin’ for a squirtin’

November 14, 2020

Good luck with it.
1. Jamie Chaos
  
  November 15, 2020
  
  I appreciate it, but there is none needed- it was do this or delete it so no one could read it. And it was really my own vanity that kept it alive, and the fact that the last decade of my life would be mostly wasted if I did so.
Chack

November 15, 2020

I’m glad you’ve kept the old stuff up, and I, for one, don’t mind paying. Your writing has helped me to become better at lifting and life in general. I was in a pretty dark place a few years ago and almost fell down the alt-right latrine. I attribute a lot of getting my head right to your writing.
1. Jamie Chaos
  
  November 16, 2020
  
  Hell yeah man. We all go through shitty times- I definitely had a couple of dogshit years in the last five. Insert platitudes and quotes from Rocky and all that, haha. I’m psyched I was able to help drag you back from the abyss, man- I guess you can tell that’s what drives those digs in my writing, haha. If it worked on one person, it fucking worked. I doubt you were on your way to shooting up a school, but I might be in the running for a “Prevernted a School Shooting” merit badge, haha.
gganate

November 15, 2020

I appreciate the insane work you’ve put into the site for all these years and hope that you’ll be able to continue doing it. If you keep writing, I’ll keep reading. Thanks.
1. Jamie Chaos
  
  November 16, 2020
  
  Absolutely, and I will not be stopping writing- I genuinely don’t think I’m capable of stopping anyway, haha. I’ve got a plan to get a publisher, and should that occur I will have the money to make this a membership site with all sorts of bells and whistles. I’ll also be expanding my writing into non-lifting history after I knock out the Necronomicon of Infernal Strength, which I refuse to abandon even though it is a ridiculous project. I am going to become the HR Giger of writing if I can land a legit publisher for normal books, haha- do weird but mainstream shit to make money and then do my really weird shit for myself and my fans.
Anthony

November 15, 2020

Good for you man. I’ve been reading your stuff for years. I don’t think people realize a lot of their own personal research ventures would’ve taken them to online journals and articles that would make them pay for subscriptions to the journal’s studies anyway, so this is a good deal for us. Plus, you translate your findings in a way that everyone can understand while being entertaining. Also for the readers that have conservative views on most topics, like myself, don’t take it so personally when he shares an opinion or writes something you don’t agree with…you know…like a rational adult. Keep up the good work Jamie and stay brutal.
1. Jamie Chaos
  
  November 16, 2020
  
  Will do man. And I think I may have mentioned that as my audience is no longer half MGTOW/incels and we’re not going to be surrounded by a bunch of angry halfwits who can’t express a real reason for their anger and just spout nonsense, haha, my writing should calm back down in that regard.
  
  I appreciate you hanging in even when you disagree, bro, and for recognizing the shit I was saying was directed at the dipshits and not every single person who calls themselves a conservative. Generalizations are like PPE- they seem to be pretty useful in most cases, but it’s not the last word in anything 🤣.
Jon

November 16, 2020

Fair enough, Jamie.
I went to the old blog, redirected here, everything pay, my eyes went red, should have waited before writing.
I never said you should give away nor do I think it, but the change pissd me.
You deserve every penny you get and more.
I will stick around and have no problem supporting.
1. Jamie Chaos
  
  November 16, 2020
  
  Hahaha. Fair play man. I’m glad we both calmed down enough to realize what dipshits we were being. I really do appreciate the support bro.
Mark

November 16, 2020

Hey Jamie I left a reply a couple days ago about being out of work as of a week ago and not able to pay for another monthly subscription you said you would email me. I want you to know its all good on my end I saw I still had YouTube premium which I never use any way so I dropped that and got the 5 a month for your blog. Your blog has been a major turning point of my life for that past two years man. I just want to say thank you for all your articles they’ve taught me a lot and I really do look forward to them every time you post.
1. Jamie Chaos
  
  November 19, 2020
  
  I hadn’t forgotten about you- I was just trying to clear my plate from all of the lingering shit still on it. I genuinely have no idea how to make a guest patreon, so this works out perfectly, haha. I really appreciate it, man. If you get stuck in the future just email me so it doesn’t get lost in the shuffle. jamielewis@chaosandpain.com
CJ

November 17, 2020

If it’s something exclusive…it’d be rad to rock a Plague of Strength keychain…a sticker decal for my cup…that design of the red character and plague logo dripping off his forehead on a shirt…maybe little pamphlets on training routines…
1. Jamie Chaos
  
  November 19, 2020
  
  That shirt is definitely in the works in a variety of obnoxious colors beyond red and white, haha. And the stickers have been printed, so I will be getting those sent out as soon as possible (hopefully I can rope my niece and nephew into helping me ship them next week).
JB

November 17, 2020

I see that you had to blanket apply the settings to all of your pages. Just FYI, even the book descriptions in the store are behind the paywall. Wanted to make sure you knew.
1. Jamie Chaos
  
  November 19, 2020
  
  Well fuck. I will have to take a look at that on vacation next week. Good looking out on letting me know.
John

December 2, 2020

Wait do you not get cash from the C&P supps? I was going to reup on some protein but I may not any more.
1. John
  
  December 2, 2020
  
  No idea why it gave me this stupid fox avi
2. Jamie Chaos
  
  December 8, 2020
  
  Nope. I haven’t in about two years. If you like it, have at it, but if the idea is to put my money in my pocket you might as well just buy anything you want- I get zero dollars irrespective of you choice, haha. Thanks for the effort though bro!